leaden dont know what they actualy will do.heres what was suposed to happen.....
TSR-DanC
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Hello all,
Just another quick status update and a new ETA (as the last one was obviously wrong.)
To avoid confusion, I'm going to start by describing the complete billing history in the matter (with dates and figures,) move on to describing what exactly the bug on SOE's side was, and then outline how the fix was implemented. I'll then go on to describe a few sample scenarios that should address any related questions.
Billing History:
6 Year Anniversary Promo: Between April 11th and May 11th of 2005 a special promotional subscription plan was offered. This was a recurring plan at $99 for a year of service. Keep in mind that when I refer to the billing bug in our system later on, it is only in relation to this plan. This will show up as "6 Year Anniversary Plan."
Interim Pricing Plan: Between May 12th and June 11th of 2005 there was an interim plan offered - just before a scheduled and announced price increase. The then current price for a 1 year subscription was $119. During this interim period the 1 year subscription would cost $99, afterwards it would revert to the regular yearly price - which was soon to be $143.99. This will only show up as a regular subscription.
Price Increase: On June 12th of 2005 the yearly subscription price changed to $143.99.
The 6 Year Anniversary Renewal Bug:
The renewal bug occurred between April 11th and May 16th of 2006. Anyone who's 6 year promo subscription came up for renewal in that time period would close automatically, with information in our system seeming to suggest an error with the customer's credit card. The culprit was later discovered to be a faulty setting on our billing server.
The Solution:
The solution implemented is a 3 part process.
1) Fix the subscription: Completed May 16th 2006. After this was repaired all 6 year anniversary subscriptions would renew normally. Also, since this is a recurring charge if your credit card date expired (but your card was reissued with a new date,) you should renew with no problems.
2) Fix the people who closed and resubscribed to a year: Completed May 31st 2006. If you resubbed at the normal yearly rate after closing due to the 6 year anniversary promo bug, we performed the following actions to your account:
Refunded the difference between the 1 year price and the 6 year promo ($44.99.)
Put you back on the 6 year anniversary promo plan.
Granted you 30 days to compensate you for our error and the inconvenience it caused.
This part of the fix for closed accounts was implemented first as it was both legally and operationally the easiest to provide.
3) Fix everyone else who closed due to the 6 year anniversary promo renewal bug. ETA Thursday June 8th, 2006. This is currently being QA'ed (I think everyone can appreciate the need for that - afterall, we don't want any new mistakes made. :smileyvery-happy The estimate is just that: an estimate. It may change depending on what errors are found and how long it takes to fix them. This fix will apply to all accounts who closed due to the 6 year promo renewal bug, regardless of if they resubscribed to any of our subscription plans, consumed a game card, were granted compensation time by customer service, or even if they subscribed on a regular yearly plan AFTER May 31st (when the 2nd part of the fix was implemented.)
This fix is currently planned to include the following:
An email to every customer affected. (So make sure your email is up to date!)
A special web page that only people affected by the bug can sign in to, which grants access to a new subscription sign up page.
A process that will refund the last charge made.
The process will put you back on the 6 year promo.
The process will also give you 30 free days to compensate you for our error.
Details are subject to change, but that's how I currently understand it will work.
Sample Scenarios:
Your 6 year promo closed between April 11th 2006 and May 16th 2006: Congratulations (er, I mean, sorry,) you were a victim of the 6 year promo renewal bug. See the above detailed fix for information on how we have or how we intend to sort you out. Also, if you're currently closed, contact CS or me and we'll give you some time until the fix goes live.
Your plan renewed at $143.99 without you resubscribing or changing your billing information: It sounds like you were on the interim pricing plan, and this was the intended behavior of the plan. If you're looking for a better deal you may wish to check out the 2 year subscription, which is currently $199. Also while I'm not promising anything at all, there's a chance we might have similar promos in the future.
Your 6 year promo closed AFTER May 16th 2006: I hate to say it but it seems like there could have been a problem with your card or bank account. You might wish to check out the 2 year subscription, which is currently $199. And also, while I'm STILL not promising anything at all, there's a chance we might have similar promos in the future.
You are on the 6 year promo plan and due to renew but your credit card expiration date has changed: If your expiration date has changed you should renew without incident due to the nature of recurring charges.
You are on the 6 year promo plan, but your credit card number or account has closed or changed significantly: Unfortunately there seems to be no way to keep you on the 6 year promo. With that having been said there is the 2 year plan (which is currently $199.) Also, and I'm STILL not promising anything, there is a chance we might have similar promos in the future.
I hope this clears up some confusion - let me know if you have further questions or concerns. Also if you've sent me mail or PMs recently and have not had a response, I'm working on getting to your emails and PMs - either myself or Geoff (my senior tech,) will get back to you.
Daniel Clifford
Customer Service Supervisor
Sony Online Entertainment
[email protected]
thats from
http://eqforums.station.sony.com/eq...cending&page=33
thursday date then was iffy but this was posted later.
TSR-DanC
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Hey Rundle:
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Rundle_Allnighter wrote:
Scenario: Account was subscribed to the 6th anniversary promo and was set to expire between May 17th and May 31st. After reading and witnessing all the problems with other 6th anniversary promo accounts, the account subscription was changed to the $199 yr plan on or before the expiration date (between May 17th and May 31st) to avoid any downtime. Note that the account was not allowed to close prior to the new plan being chosen. The preference would have been to keep the $99 6th anniversary promo subscription.
Would this pre-emptive attempt to avoid account issues and downtime fall under your solution #3? Note the biggest difference stated is that the account was not allowed to close (What? Go with out EQ for a day? Never! Better fix it before it breaks! ... lol ).
Thanks.
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I hate to say it, but the plan does not take into account any pre-emptive account modifications.
It sounds like you're already familiar with 1 of the suggestions I've been making for those who we can't get back onto the 6 year promo (the 2 year promo = $199, which is nearly the same as 2 yearly $99 renewals.) And I'm sure you've read my post thoroughly and have recognized the other suggestion regarding the possibility (surely not promise) that a new promotional plan may be available soon.
For all those of you who have fallen off the wagon for reasons other than the promo renewal bug, I understand that many won't be satisfied locking into a 2 year subscription when they prefer to be on a 1 year promo (for whatever reason.) Also, you shouldn't take my suggestion that there may be future promos of a similar nature as the honest truth - I can't and won't stand behind it at this time.
For those of you who are upset by these facts, I can only offer my apology - this is currently how our billing system operates in regards to promotional subscriptions that were offered for a temporary time. Is it less than ideal in my opinion? Surely. Was anything else ever promised? Surely not. Is it legal? I'm not a lawyer, but our legal department stands behind it.
Daniel Clifford
Customer Service Supervisor
Sony Online Entertainment
[email protected]
and then this was posted ..
TSR-DanC
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Status update:
For those customers who were a victim of the bug between April 11th and May 12th 2006 that did not allow the 6 year anniversary plan to renew: the final part of the fix should be live tomorrow, Tuesday June 13th 2006, barring any unforseen difficulties.
(If your billing failed during this period and you resubscribed to a 1 year plan BEFORE May 31st, you should have already been fixed automatically.)
Bear in mind that this process may change, but I just wanted to prep you all with a little information to help this go a little smoother.
1) All customers effected by the bug (and not yet fixed,) will be emailed. This email will contain instructions to visit a web site that only accounts effected by the bug can log into. At this website they can update their subscription to be placed back on the 6 year promo.
2) Those who resubscribed with a credit card will be refunded their charge. Unfortunately we do not have the means to provide this courtesy to those who consumed game cards (being that they were purchased at 3rd party locations.)
3) 30 free days will be given to anyone's account who was effected by this and opts back in to the 6 year promo.
One special class of customers (which only consists of 40 people,) are those who have resubscribed to a Station Access subscription. You should receive your own email with more information, which will summarize a process where you must be in direct contact with Customer Service before you can visit the resubscribe web page.
Message Edited by TSR-DanC on 06-12-2006 01:07 PM
Daniel Clifford
Customer Service Supervisor
Sony Online Entertainment
[email protected]
an today my account was CLOSED again...no email for no special web site. no replies to my emails an pms as directed..../bleh haveing enuff health problems in rl i really dont need more argivation atm./sigh.